Draft Minutes to the 15th Meeting of the
Accessible Transportation Standards Development Committee (T-SDC)
89 Chestnut St, Ballroom
Toronto, ON
June 16, 2008
Present
- Al Cormier, Chair Cor Al Services
- Louise Bark, Individual
- Glenn Barnes, Tetra Society
- James Bisson, Association of Municipal Managers, Clerks and Treasurers of Ontario
- Mark Brose, Transportation Action Now
- Bob Brown, Individual
- Silvan Bruno, GO Transit, Ontario Public Transit Association/Canadian Urban Transit Association
- Katrina Carrera, l'Association française des municipalités de l'Ontario
- Joan Gallagher-Bell, Individual
- Julianne Hay, Community Living Ontario
- Blyth Helman, Ottawa-Carleton District School Board
- Glenn Johnston, Toronto Transit Commission (rep by Bill Dawson)
- Diann Krieger,Individual
- Chris McLean, CNIB National Office
- Alex Milojevic, Association of Municipalities of Ontario, City of Brampton, Ontario Public Transit Association/Canadian Urban Transit Association
- Tim Nolan, Council of Ontario Universities, Inter-University Disabilities Issues Association
- Kelly Paleczny, London Transit Commission, Ontario Public Transit Association/Canadian Urban Transit Association
- Maria Ann Pennacchietti, Individual
- Lloyd Pollock, Dignity Transportation Inc
- Danielle Svec, Bloorview Kids Rehab
Regrets
- Druce Ayres Individual
- Valmay Barkey Ontario Community Support Association
- Spiros Bastas, Royal Taxi
- Jo-Ann Bentley, Canadian Hearing Society
- Earl Black, Independent Living Resource Centre
- Brenda Deck, HAGI Community Services for Independence, City of Thunder Bay
- Sharon Hambleton, Ontario Federation of Labour
- Bob Nunn, Creative Carriage Ltd.
- Bonnie Quesnel, London Ontario
- Susan Picarello, Ministry of Health & Long-Term Care
Advisors
- Georges Ansell, Ministry of Northern Development and Mines
- Terry Gilhen, Disabled Persons Community Resources
- Uzma Kahn, ASAC
- Linda McAusland, Ministry of Transportation (rep by Allan Moore)
- Mark Nagler, Individual
- Ron Ross, Individual
- Vanissa Szeto, Ministry of Education
- Donna Simmonds, Ministry of Municipal Affairs and Housing
Support Unit
Kevin Boehmer, Canadian Standards Association
David Dilks, Lura Consulting
Mike Dodd, Canadian Standards Association
Nicki Islic, Canadian Standards Association
Carolyn Bennett, Ministry of Community and Social Services
Nelly Tion, Ministry of Community and Social Services
Danielle Belanger, Ministry of Community and Social Services
Scot Weeres, Ministry of Community and Social Services
Jim Dixon, Ministry of Community and Social Services
M15.1 Call to Order
A. Cormier (Chair) welcomed the members and called the 15th meeting of the Accessible Transportation Standards Development Committee (T-SDC) meeting to order at 9:30 a.m. on June 16, 2008.
M15.2 Housekeeping and Facility Safety
The Support Unit advised the T-SDC members about housekeeping matters and emergency procedures for the meeting.
M15.3 Meeting Objectives
A. Cormier welcomed the participants and summarize meeting objectives:
- To approve the revised Guiding Principles for the T-SDC.
- To review and comment on the recommendations of the On-demand Taxi Task Force.
- To review and comment on the recommendations of the Booked, School and Other Transportation Services Task Force.
- To receive a report on the work of the Training Task Force.
- To receive a report on the work of the Fixed Route Task Force.
- To establish an Integrated Drafting Task Force including approval of a terms of reference for the task force.
- To start preparing the letter that will be submitted to the minister with the final proposed accessible transportation standard. A. Cormier noted that this item will be worked on by the Support Unit between this meeting and the September meeting based on inputs from previous meetings and task force reports.
M15.4 Administrative Matters
M15.4.1 Approval of the Meeting 15 Draft Agenda
K. Boehmer suggested that the following items be added:
- Approval of meeting communiqué; and
- Review of workplan.
The draft agenda was accepted with the suggested additions.
M15.4.2 Approval of the Meeting 14 Draft Minutes
K. Boehmer summarized comments received on draft minutes:
- R. Barnes noted that A. Moore is the official back-up for L. McAusland and his name should have appeared on the attendance list.
- K. Paleczny noted that some participants requested the Chair note concern over aggressive timelines be included in the Chair’s letter to the Minister that would accompany the workplan.
- L. Pollock requested clarification on the committee voting process be included in the minutes.
K. Boehmer noted that the Chair did include concern with timelines in his letter to the Minister and that voting rules were documented in the committee’s rules and procedures document.
| ACTION: Support Unit to distribute Chair’s letter to the Minister that accompanied the revised T-SDC workplan. |
M15.4.3 Membership Review (for information)
A. Cormier noted that two new members have been appointed by the Minister:
- Robert Nunn of Creative Carriage Ltd to replace David Carroll; and
- Bonnie Quesnel an individual from London to replace Dan McKay.
M15.5 Review of Revised Guiding Principles
D. DIlks introduced the discussion on the background and purpose of guiding principles. K Boehmer gave a background on the evolution of the draft guiding principles. After discussion and additional revisions, the T-SDC reached consensus on approval of the revised Guiding Principles.
M15.6 Task Force Reports
M15.6.1 Report from the On-Demand Taxi Task Force
L. Pollock reported that the task force reviewed public review comments in reaching consensus on a recommended revised Clause 7 for consideration by the T-SDC.
The T-SDC agreed that the On-Demand Taxi Task Force recommendation be integrated into next draft of standard.
M15.6.2 Report from the Booked, School, and Other Transportation Services Task Force
V. Barkey reported that the task force reviewed the public review comments on Clauses 8, 9, and 10, changes were made and the task force achieved consensus.
V. Barkey reported that the task force reviewed public review comments in reaching consensus on a recommended revised Clauses 8, 9 and 10 for consideration by the T-SDC.
The T-SDC identified two issues for the Task Force to consider:
- Inclusion of requirements for conveyance operators to provide door-to-door assistance (consider Clauses 8 and 10, noting limitations related to Clause 9 and leaving students unattended); and
- Applicability of school transportation requirements (Clause 9) to private institutions.
The Task Force agreed to review the two identified issues prior to the next meeting of the T-SDC.
The T-SDC agreed that, after review of remaining issues, the Booked, School and Other Transportation Services Task Force recommendation be integrated into next draft of standard.
M15.6.3 Report from the Fixed Route Task Force
K. Carrera updated the T-SDC on the work of the Fixed Route Task Force to date. The Fixed Route Task Force has held one meeting to begin review of the public review comments and plans to submit its recommendations to the T-SDC for consideration at its next meeting.
M15.6.4 Report from the Training Task Force
D. Dilks reported that the training task force met and had prepared a draft recommendation that they are currently reviewing. He reported that once the TF has reached consensus on the proposed recommendation, it will be circulated to the T-SDC for comment prior to the next meeting of the T-SDC.
M15.6.5 Establishment of the Integrated Drafting Task Force
K. Boehmer introduced the draft Terms of Reference for the Integrated Drafting Task Force (IDTF). The T-SDC agreed with the following Terms of Reference:
- The integration of the Fixed Route, On-Demand Taxi, Training, and Booked, School and Other Transportation Services task force recommendations into draft standard;
- An assessment of the class structure, terminology, and application of the standard and recommendation for revisions;
- Edits that are made for clarity and consistency;
- Refinement of general or conveyance specific clauses;
- Harmonization with other AODA Standards; and
- Suggested opportunities to refine, consolidate classes, and timelines.
The Chair noted that he will appoint four members (two voting members representing persons with disabilities, two voting members not representing persons with disabilities) to the IDTF in the near future.
M15.7 Approval of Meeting Communiqué
D. DIlks led a review of the progress of Meeting 15 and the T-SDC agreed on the content of the committee communiqué.
M15.8 Review of Workplan
The T-SDC reviewed and revised the workplan as follows:
| Meeting |
Key Objectives |
Meeting 15
June 16, 2008 |
- Get final approval of Guiding Principles.
- Report on Task Force progress/key issues.
- Reach preliminary agreement on On-demand and Booked, School and Other Task Force recommended draft standard text.
- Establish Editorial Task Force and agree to Terms of Reference.
- Reaffirm T-SDC and Task Force workplans.
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Between Meeting 15 and 16
- Work completed between June 18 and August 27
- Materials out by August 27
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- Training and Fixed Route/Specialized Task Forces continue to consider public review comments and develop recommended draft standard text.
- Training and Fixed Route/Specialized Task Forces deliver recommended draft standard text.
- Implement Editorial Task Force workplan with the Task Force Convenor.
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Meeting 16
September 10 & 11, 2008 |
- Report on Task Force progress/key issues.
- Reach preliminary agreement on Training and Fixed
- Route/Specialized recommended draft standard text.
- Agree to final direction given to Editorial Task Force in preparing final draft proposed standard.
- Agree to initial Minister’s letter content and process for preparing draft.
- Reaffirm T-SDC and Task Force workplans.
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Between Meeting 16 and 17
Work completed between September 12 and October 14
Materials out by October 15 (2 weeks prior).
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- Editorial Task Force completes final draft proposed standard (by September 26).
- Revised costing estimates are completed.
- Distribute final draft proposed standard and comment template to members for constituent review and comment (September 29 to October 10).
- Compile, sort and distribute member comments (by October 15).
- Prepare draft Minister’s letter (by October 15).
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Meeting 17
October 30 & 31, 2008
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- Consider T-SDC member comments on the final draft proposed standard.
- Revise, as necessary, final draft proposed standard text.
- Administer recorded vote to approve the final draft proposed standard for submittal to the Minister.
- Review and agree to the Minister’s letter.
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M15.9 Next Meetings
Meeting 16 is scheduled for Wednesday and Thursday September 10 – 11, 2008 at 89 Chestnut St. in the Ballroom
Meeting 17 is scheduled for Thursday and Friday October 30 – 31, 2008 at 89 Chestnut St.
Meeting 18 is tentatively scheduled for Wednesday and Thursday December 3 – 4 at 89 Chestnut St. in the Ballroom.
M15.10 Process Review
D. Dilks led the T-SDC through a process review. Feedback included:
- Internet availability should be announced prior to the meeting;
- Explore use of multiple screens
- Re-organize committee Document Repository by meeting
M15.11 Comments on Meeting Accessibility
A. Cormier asked the members for comments on meeting accessibility. Comments included:
- There is only one washroom for use by people with disabilities.
M15.12 Adjournment
The meeting adjourned at 2:35 pm on June 16, 2008.